ARDC Private Practice 1st Oct

[windy]

Gday boys,

Who is in for this?

[Mstevo]

It's on the long circuit, if it was the GP I'd be in

[windy]

Yeah i totally agree mate. But its track time and im using the time to get back on after my crash at broady

[Krackeye]

Why do they use the full circuit? As far as I'm aware no discipline races it so why practice on it.

[Kris]

Who bloody knows, what a complete fuck up that circuit is.

[Turbo]

Why do they use the full circuit? As far as I'm aware no discipline races it so why practice on it.

Agreed, nobody does race on it! What's the point?!
Hard to get motivated to make it happen for the 1st.... I wonder if we could petition ARDC? Anybody know if it's at least liked by any discipline?

[Craig]

Shit circuit, but yeah I need the track time. I'm in


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Leezx10r]

Sorry guys am out for this one. Work

[Button699]

Who bloody knows, what a complete fuck up that circuit is.

Haha... Couldn't have said it better mate!

[Button699]

I'm not out also

[zoidberg]

Who bloody knows, what a complete fuck up that circuit is.

It's bloody awful, didn't ride the track from about 2000 until 2014, came back and first ride was on that shit, only rode it once more to realise it was garbage. What a waste of money...

[Kris]

Thats what happens when bean counters designed race tracks - stick to what you know, counting beans and leave the track designing to people who have a clue. There was and is NOTHING wrong with the GP circuit other than the questionable surface which has improved immensely in the past 12months. I miss the old Turn 6 kink though

[zoidberg]

I have at length tried to explain how much more fun it was to have that little bit of concrete to run over before heading up the hill to people that never experienced it. Seemed to make where you should be on track clearer. Well, to me anyway... Mind you, I'm getting old and have no idea where I am for the first few hours after waking up everyday.

[Marshy]

I have at length tried to explain how much more fun it was to have that little bit of concrete to run over before heading up the hill to people that never experienced it.

Me too!! It was tops. I miss it.

The extension was purely built so they could run 2 circuits at once (North and South), hence nearly doubling the day's rental fees. As always, money talks. Although I would love to see track hire stats to find out if or how often this actually happens, and if so, how many years the dual-hire days will take to pay back the $9m cost of the extension. Not to mention the cost of the close-to-a-year the whole track was closed completely while they did all the work. What a fuck-up indeed.

And of course, because they've sunk (wasted) all that money into the extension, they have to be seen to be using it.

Did you notice that Stay Upright quickly switched their planned Extended Circuit days to GP Circuit? And that MEGA, the pioneers of cashing in on the 20 extra riders per day are allowed on the extended circuit (45 per session instead of 40 for the GP track) actually shot themselves in the foot because the extended circuit days ended up being very very very poorly attended (like, 50 or 60 total paying customers at a track day, out of a maximum of 180) that they would've been losing money. They alienated a lot of casual customers too.

[Nelso]

There are also more crashes on on average on a full circuit day compared to a GP circuit day. I'd say it has a bit to do with it being more fatiguing with the 'go-cart section' added.

[Krackeye]

Marshy, didn't you once ring about an ARDC day that was to be run on the extended circuit and they changed it to the GP. I can't see the cars objecting. Surely!

[Simmo]

Mega did a survey of people at the track one day on which circuit was preferred. The GP was certainly well ahead on the scoresheet when I saw it.
My observation is that most of the better riders love GP circuit and hate extended circuit. WHY?
At my current level of riding I like either but do agree the GP flows better.

[Marshy]

Marshy, didn't you once ring about an ARDC day that was to be run on the extended circuit and they changed it to the GP. I can't see the cars objecting. Surely!

I asked them on the day, and they went and thought about it for a while and then said 'no'. One of their arguments was that it "was advertised and the extended circuit and they didn't want to mislead people that had turned up expecting the extended circuit".

I wonder if we could petition for next year??

[Turbo]

it "was advertised and the extended circuit and they didn't want to mislead people that had turned up expecting the extended circuit".

[Mr.Ed]

Late to the party but +1 re the kink!!!

Also, so ARDC has no qualms when dropping AASA even though it was still advertised on their website but changing the layout to one most atendees would prefer is a "no no"? Yep, sounds like motorsports in Australia alright.

[Wolfie57]

Hey lads, I'm in for Thursday, they need 10 entries by Weds lunchtime for it to go ahead.

I agree the extension is crap but $130 for 2.5 hrs of track time on a sunny day can't be beaten!

[Turbo]

Mark!
Hmmm, weather DOES look pretty tasty...

[Wolfie57]

Thanks mate, took me a while to sort my shit out!

Looks awesome -
Thursday 1 October
Summary Min 11 Max 27 Mostly sunny.Possible rainfall: 0 mmChance of any rain: 10%

[Marshy]

I'm soooo keen, but just can't get out of work that day (unusually for me).

[Ruckos87]

Love to but not up to speed yet, I may pop out for a look at how it runs. Is that allowed ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Wolfie57]

There's always a way Marshy.....

[Turbo]

I reckon ARDC should offer a 'call-in-sick' service, to your nominated responsibility.

[Wolfie57]

Haha like it!

[Marshy]

Krista tells me there's only 3 bikes pre-booked. Again, I wish I could make it!

[Wolfie57]

Yeh Michael just booked so that makes 3, I think Pete is going to as well but doesn't look too hopeful at this stage, what a waste!

[Helmet]

Seeing as the weather is set to be primo I'm trying to wrangle the day off. Hopefully book sarvo or tomorrow. Am also badgering others to come

[Wolfie57]

Nice one, deadline is tomorrow lunchtime, hopefully if we get close enough to 10 they will go ahead......

[Helmet]

Form sent through. Keen.

[simonr]

mines in, hopefully they get a few more

[simonr]

they've only got 5 forms in, and they are well aware its because it is on the full track....

[Helmet]

Yeah, I just got the call too.

COME ON GUYS! 5 more by lunch. Don't make me beg haha.

[Wolfie57]

Shit can't believe we only have 5 whilst the normal days get 100-160, why do people want to waste their money! I know the full circuit is crap but the value for money is amazing.....

[Helmet]

Normal track day punters can't be bothered getting MA/aasa license and ardc membership is my guess.

[Wolfie57]

Yeh guess so, would have helped if it was Friday and not Thursday as well. If we get close to 10 I would happily pay a bit extra.......

[Turbo]

I don't think it's a money thing. I think it's a 'one person with a session to themselves' that's objected to by the other classes.
I certainly thought it was unfair that open wheelers didn't have to register and frequently had only one driver lapping, until quite recently.

[Helmet]

I don't think it's a money thing. I think it's a 'one person with a session to themselves' that's objected to by the other classes.
I certainly thought it was unfair that open wheelers didn't have to register and frequently had only one driver lapping, until quite recently.

Yeah, that's true about the numbers per session. Just a shame people have such aversion to the long track.

[Turbo]

Just a shame people have such aversion to the long track.

Nah, it's just a shame they insist on running race practices on a track that nobody races on!
They never run North Circuit for example, even that would make more sense. It's purely because they have to be seen to use it. Ridiculous!

[Helmet]

So is no one else putting their name in? Killing me haha

[Builda]

Hi, Im number 7, they will run with 8

[Helmet]

With 8? That's interesting, haven't seen that before.

[Turbo]

They've done that a few times to help out. They want us there!
Always ends up being more on the day anyhow!!

[Helmet]

Oh that's alright of them then. Hopefully it goes ahead then. I need track time haha.

[Wolfie57]

Agreed - pointless, even more ridiculous when we are supposed to be racers and don't even use that track!

[simonr]

We are on

[Helmet]

Yup, just got the call too. Nice!