St George 7 / 8 Nov

**Button699** · 20-10-2015, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Marshy

Yeah, but that's only looking at Sunday. Most people do the Saturday (north circuit) too. Which then makes it $580 for 60 laps. Including two bike spots (half a garage). Plus separate warm up and qualifying sessions.

But I look at it much more about how many 'at bats' you get (times on track) rather than race laps.... my view is that I'd much rather be on the bike 10 times in a day for 5 laps each than 4 times in a day and do 12 laps each time. Same number of laps, but - for me at least - much much much more enjoyment out of more

sessions. Which is the downside of ASBK; it's much more like WSBK or MotoGP - there are fewer, much longer sessions (practice and racing), which I don't like nearly as much as having lots of starts/sessions/finishes etc.

Speaking of expensive... the last FX round: one day of racing, $455 entry (one class), plus $180 for two bike spots. Dunno how many races (3? 4?) or race laps (7? 8?), but when you've paid $635 for a single day, there'd need to be a LOT of race laps to make it as good value for money.

It's all a small price when looking at those shiny bits of plastic sitting on ya shelf afterwards..... Eh!!!!

**Leezx10r** · 20-10-2015, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Button699

It's all a small price when looking at those shiny bits of plastic sitting on ya shelf afterwards..... Eh!!!!

Love the bling!

**Marshy** · 19-10-2015, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Krackeye

Not a lot of competitors at this stage.
http://www.stgeorgemcc.com/pg_roadracepdf.php?id=v2u2u2

Did anyone notice I'm now riding an Aprilia SP? It's last year's ART MotoGP bike....

Yeah rite!!! I wish.

**KANGA** · 19-10-2015, 11:46 AM

Is there any reason why I would be listed for the Saturdays North Circuit but not the Sundays GP for 600cc D grade?

**Linden** · 19-10-2015, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by KANGA

Is there any reason why I would be listed for the Saturdays North Circuit but not the Sundays GP for 600cc D grade?

did you enter ... best be ringing and check

**KANGA** · 19-10-2015, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Linden

did you enter ... best be ringing and check

Wait I'm an idiot, ignore me. Googled it and linked to an older document. Derp!

**Carl-52** · 19-10-2015, 01:31 PM

Im racing so ill see you there Kanga, though im in clubsport only. North circuit was fun last time, even though I spent all day sorting suspension out. Should be mental this time, Pbs for me.

**Carl-52** · 19-10-2015, 01:38 PM

Just checked the names, Clubsport D grade looks fun. Anyone notice the moto2 bike entered into 600s?

**Kris** · 19-10-2015, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Carl-52

Just checked the names, Clubsport D grade looks fun. Anyone notice the moto2 bike entered into 600s?

Yep, its an older Moto2 bike but its got some tasty bits on it. Namely a set of KTR2 (or maybe 3) forks - Motor gets refreshed yearly by the Moto2 team. Pretty trick machine!

**chubb** · 19-10-2015, 02:29 PM

You'll be right.. you got 125hp on your bike anyway..

**Turbo** · 19-10-2015, 05:16 PM

What is it again?
"Two of everything, then two spare of the things I have two of..."

**zoidberg** · 19-10-2015, 07:02 PM

Gah... I was hoping somehow there'd be some kind of paperwork fuckup and I'd miss out on entry... Hahah, just kidding kind of... Name is in print, nerves are jangling.

**Marshy** · 19-10-2015, 08:09 PM

All track time is expensive, unfortunately. It didn't used to be that way, but with no other tracks in Sydney, ARDC have a monopoly, massive demand, and free reign to set sky-high prices. It's $22k per day (on a weekend), plus mandatory cleaning and security ($5k for two days) to hire the track, so a two-day weekend is minimum $50k. St George's costs from last year were almost $75k for the weekend (medical, printing, office stuff, flaggies lunches, etc etc). If they get 150 riders, that's $500 each. If they don't (and don't count cross-entries in the numbers, because they aren't full-fare, so to speak), then the club wears the loss.

FX subsidises the costs with revenue from sponsorship, advertising, and a cut of Dunlop's action (plus other businesses that might want to spruik their wares).

But any way you cut it, it's an expensive activity!

**Krackeye** · 19-10-2015, 08:55 PM

What did the PI club race(Prestons??) day cost recently Marshy.

**Marshy** · 19-10-2015, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Krackeye

What did the PI club race(Prestons??) day cost recently Marshy.

Can't remember.... Less than St George/FX, but not much less, from memory. Factor in the garage, and it was pretty similar. That's cross-entering also.

The cost of hiring Phillip Island for Prestons two years ago was $36k for the two days. Dunno what other expenses they incurred, but that was what they paid PI circuit. So a fair whack cheaper than 2 days at the Creek, but still not loose change....

**Kimbo** · 19-10-2015, 11:02 PM

The FTR600 is racing in the BEARS as well. Who cares about money, having a good time with friends is more important. It cost $425.00 to race at PI in August with Prestons

**Marshy** · 20-10-2015, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by Kimbo

The FTR600 is racing in the BEARS as well. Who cares about money, having a good time with friends is more important. It cost $425.00 to race at PI in August with Prestons

Hmmmmm. Japanese engine, so is it actually a BEARS bike?

Totally agree Kimbo re the money. If you wanna cheaper hobby, go play golf!

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**Krackeye** · 20-10-2015, 08:33 AM

Membership and green fees= Highway robbery!

Originally Posted by Marshy

Hmmmmm. Japanese engine, so is it actually a BEARS bike?

Totally agree Kimbo re the money. If you wanna cheaper hobby, go play golf!

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**Linden** · 20-10-2015, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Marshy

Hmmmmm. Japanese engine, so is it actually a BEARS bike?

That old kettle of fish ...

whats an Aprilia 250 then

Basically it must have a MAJOR part that's B,E or A ish and BE badged as a BEAR ie a Harris Honda is bad but a Harris with a Honda engine is OK

**Marshy** · 20-10-2015, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Linden

whats an Aprilia 250 then

Aprilia make a 250? Or anything other than race RSV4s? This is news to me

**Kimbo** · 20-10-2015, 10:10 AM

Yep, like Bimota YB and SB series of bikes

**zoidberg** · 20-10-2015, 02:20 PM

Might seem like a silly question, but what classes race together? If I've overlooked it, or it's in the MOMS, then I will feel bad, sorry Owen

**Turbo** · 20-10-2015, 03:00 PM

Hey Nath, the classes are on the supp regs: http://www.stgeorgemcc.com/pg_roadracepdf.php?id=v2t2x2

Once they've numbers confirmed, they'll release a programme of events that'll likely look something like this:
http://www.stgeorgemcc.com/pg_roadracepdf.php?id=t2z2q2

**zoidberg** · 20-10-2015, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Sicko

Hey Nath, the classes are on the supp regs: http://www.stgeorgemcc.com/pg_roadracepdf.php?id=v2t2x2

Once they've numbers confirmed, they'll release a programme of events that'll likely look something like this:
http://www.stgeorgemcc.com/pg_roadracepdf.php?id=t2z2q2

Thanks mate! The waiting is killing me.

**dadat178** · 20-10-2015, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by zoidberg

Might seem like a silly question, but what classes race together? If I've overlooked it, or it's in the MOMS, then I will feel bad, sorry Owen

The list of competitors shows the events ie what classes are in each event.

**Kimbo** · 20-10-2015, 04:39 PM

Practice day on the Friday now

**Marshy** · 20-10-2015, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Kimbo

Practice day on the Friday now

Yeah, it's an ARDC Private Practice.

**Marshy** · 29-10-2015, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Marshy

Yeah, it's an ARDC Private Practice.

Speaking of which, ARDC just chased me with the customary prompt for bike registrations. There are 5 already (and I'm about to send mine in), so I'm sure there'll be no shortage of numbers, but get 'em in anyway folks! It's not like you're not gonna turn up even if the weather looks a bit iffy. And it makes the registration process much easier if you've already paid.

**zoidberg** · 20-10-2015, 08:51 PM

Oh, okay, so unlimited clubsport has 5.11.17 next to it, that is the race number? Or event number? Ie, 5th race, 11th race and 17th race?

That makes sense, so whatever classes have those, are gridding up together? Cool, thanks, if I have that right!

**Marshy** · 20-10-2015, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by zoidberg

Ie, 5th race, 11th race and 17th race?

This is correct

**Button699** · 21-10-2015, 02:11 PM

Apparently it's all booked out according to the missus... I'll give me a call and tell them to save me a room if one becomes available

**Leezx10r** · 21-10-2015, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Button699

Apparently it's all booked out according to the missus... I'll give me a call and tell them to save me a room if one becomes available

Yes it is. I booked in September as its STG plus ACDC are in town also

**Button699** · 21-10-2015, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Leezx10r

Yes it is. I booked in September as its STG plus ACDC are in town also

That explains it

**Marshy** · 27-10-2015, 07:51 AM

Much healthier updated entry list was posted up on Sunday: http://www.stgeorgemcc.com/pg_roadracepdf.php?id=v2u2u2

Getting very excited!!

**Turbo** · 27-10-2015, 08:00 AM

I dunno, that still looks pretty sparse.. look at all the double entries!?
How's the SP-1 coming along btw?

**Marshy** · 27-10-2015, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Sicko

How's the SP-1 coming along btw?

Just waiting for it to be delivered

**Krackeye** · 29-10-2015, 08:45 PM

I'll sort mine out tomoz.

**Turbo** · 30-10-2015, 10:28 AM

PP form submitted.. boom! Can't wait!!

**Metal-Man** · 30-10-2015, 01:06 PM

if i had ordered fairings a lil bit earlier, maybe, just maybe, I could of entered

**Turbo** · 30-10-2015, 01:08 PM

I've got an old crashed set I could lend you...? Not pretty but they work.

**Metal-Man** · 30-10-2015, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Sicko

I've got an old crashed set I could lend you...? Not pretty but they work.

thanks but no thanks Owen .. need to do a shakedown b4 I go out an race it from the rebuild

**Metal-Man** · 30-10-2015, 01:12 PM

Nick !!

Are the boys workin their magic on my paint job?? ;-)

Also, when can I expect to pick up the forks?

**Turbo** · 30-10-2015, 01:12 PM

Good plan, Cam. Blow away the cobwebs!!

**Binksy** · 30-10-2015, 01:51 PM

You still on the rebuild from Wakefield Cam? Didn't realise your stack was that bad :(

**Metal-Man** · 30-10-2015, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Binksy

You still on the rebuild from Wakefield Cam? Didn't realise your stack was that bad :(

yea mate, the frame was bent, swing arm bent, wheels bent, forks bent ... i was bent lol ....

engine oil cover was cracked (right side, in front of clutch cover) top triple bent, lower triple smashed, clip-ons stuffed, lost the front reservoir, forks were ground off at the top clickers, cluster/dash cracked/damaged, fairings stuffed, tank damaged, sub frame bent, just everything was bent.
it's all been straightened now, got another pair of forks from Tristan, waiting for Marshy to mod the internals.

it's a slow process when you dun have factory backing (sigh)

**Wolfie57** · 30-10-2015, 02:57 PM

Just heard from Jan that Formulas 3-5 have been moved from BEARS to 400 race as 400's only had 9 and they were worried about lap time differentials in BEARS.

She's getting loads of late entries which is good as she reckons they haven't taken enough cash to pay for the track hire yet!

**Turbo** · 30-10-2015, 02:59 PM

Glad to hear it's filling out. It's a great event, would be a shame to see them struggle to make ends meet.

**Wolfie57** · 30-10-2015, 03:05 PM

Yeh I agree mate, I'm surprised as there were big numbers last year.

The nerves kicking in yet mate? Its the big anniversary!

**Turbo** · 30-10-2015, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Wolfie57

The nerves kicking in yet mate? Its the big anniversary!

Hahah, the most nervous I was was actually at the drags, the first time I was back on the bike. After I worked out what I was doing wrong tho, it's been fine.
I was cheering under the helmet at the start of the PI races!!

Unfortunately I'm not racing next weekend tho. Totally out of cash, having paid through the nose for a trip to UK over Christmas and NY.
I'll be there on Monday and Friday and hanging around for the race days. Will be back in for round 1/2 tho!!

**Wolfie57** · 30-10-2015, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Sicko

Unfortunately I'm not racing next weekend tho. Totally out of cash, having paid through the nose for a trip to UK over Christmas and NY.
I'll be there on Monday and Friday and hanging around for the race days. Will be back in for round 1/2 tho!!

Gutted mate, its the weekend everyone will be talking about you so you have to at least come along!

Save it for a championship tilt next season mate