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    No!

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    Marshy I'll have to pop over one evening next week (Wednesday?) for some tyre changing if that suits?
    Sure Dan, no worries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan View Post
    Come on, live a little haha

    Lose the kill switch and install a clutch bypass so you can start it without pulling the clutch AND in gear. Heaps real!
    I did both to my gixxers. Never looked back! Besides, you've only gotta ride down pit lane with the sidestand still down once - with the entire 180 riders at a track day screaming and pointing at you - before intense embarrassment cures you of your forgetfulness. Trust me, I know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshy View Post
    I did both to my gixxers. Never looked back! Besides, you've only gotta ride down pit lane with the sidestand still down once - with the entire 180 riders at a track day screaming and pointing at you - before intense embarrassment cures you of your forgetfulness. Trust me, I know
    Getting pointed at by White Group. How emasculating haha

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    And chicks in leathers.....



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    And chicks in leathers.....
    Carly Foulkes

    BTW: Read Eddie (Lee's ???) comment (2nd down) ... take ... take ... take ...

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    hello carly foulkes

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    Marshy not doing double duty???

    Can't believe the 600 grid size and the clubsport as well!

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    Im sure he is

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    Over 40 for 600cc and over 30 for clubby. It's gonna be crazy!

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    Fuck going to be mental. First race, massive grid, can't wait!
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    I'm going to be up the back for L1 T1 ... that's going to be pants pooping scary mid pack with that sized field.

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    Yeah first race for me too, hopefully I'm lucky and qualify at the back so I haven't gotta deal with the mess through turn 1 after my first race start, haha!

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    Turn 1 off the start looks WAAAAY worse spectating than it does when you're actually in the midst of it. There's more room between bikes than you think.
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    The riders have spoken.....this is what they want
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    hoping for a smoothly run meet scrutineering is going to be ugly
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  16. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshy View Post
    Turn 1 off the start looks WAAAAY worse spectating than it does when you're actually in the midst of it. There's more room between bikes than you think.
    Easy for you to say buddy, you're always at the pointy end of the field. T1 is bad but I think T2 is worse for the first lap after the start but that's half the fun
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    You can get alot of riders round the outside of turn 1 off the start. Everyone brakes for turn 1 when you dont need to

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    Come to think of it, it was teniswood who taught me you dont have to brake for turn 1 at all on a 600 even on a flying lap.

    Just got to be committed and not look at the outside edge grass!!


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    Just down shift right Chubb 5th to 6th

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    6th to 5th

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    lol.. yeah that's what I meant. At least someone's on the ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazabuzz View Post
    Easy for you to say buddy, you're always at the pointy end of the field.
    'Always' is a relative term in this case - 18 months ago I was at the back of mid field. Admittedly, turns 1 and 2 are a bit easier towards the front.
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    St George round 5 & 6 Eastern creek 2/3 November

    Quote Originally Posted by chubb View Post
    Come to think of it, it was teniswood who taught me you dont have to brake for turn 1 at all on a 600 even on a flying lap.

    Just got to be committed and not look at the outside edge grass!!

    There are a lot of variables to consider regarding that advice. One of them being terminal velocity at the end of the straight. The fastest riders I know tell me the harder and longer you hold it on the more you will need to brake. The faster I'm going in lap times the more I'm having to brake and it helps steer it in. Each to their own I guess. I've got a few 279s and 281s on my GPS from yesterday. I can't do it without braking
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    If you run both days, do you have to go through scrutineering on the Sunday? Just wondering how busy it will be on Sunday.

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    You don't go through scrutineering on Sunday if you were done on Saturday

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    Quote Originally Posted by senator8 View Post
    There are a lot of variables to consider regarding that advice. One of them being terminal velocity at the end of the straight. The fastest riders I know tell me the harder and longer you hold it on the more you will need to brake.
    +1. Aim to back off/brake at the slip road a few metres before the 100 board, but you will normally need to brake a little even on a 600. Unless you're an A grade super-champion....
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    I make up for my lack of corner speed in all other corners in turn 1

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    I don't brake just shift down going into turn 1 but most people are probably going quicker than my old 600!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshy View Post
    'Always' is a relative term in this case - 18 months ago I was at the back of mid field. Admittedly, turns 1 and 2 are a bit easier towards the front.
    What has changed in your approach to riding to achieve the improvement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan View Post
    What has changed in your approach to riding to achieve the improvement?
    I stopped worrying about crashing. Simple (and as massively complex!) as that. I was always thinking about it, every corner, and now it never comes into my mind. That change alone is worth 10 secs a lap. Forget suspension tweaking or more horsepower... the real speed comes from within the mind.

    Interestingly, I'm also much less likely to crash now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshy View Post
    I stopped worrying about crashing. Simple (and as massively complex!) as that. I was always thinking about it, every corner, and now it never comes into my mind. That change alone is worth 10 secs a lap. Forget suspension tweaking or more horsepower... the real speed comes from within the mind.

    Interestingly, I'm also much less likely to crash now!
    +1 !!! although thats not to say go out hell for leather beyond skill level, but definitely backng yourself a bit...And racing is a great way to do that as you are so focussed about the battle with competitors that you go smoother and faster than if you were on a track day...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshy View Post
    I stopped worrying about crashing. Simple (and as massively complex!) as that. I was always thinking about it, every corner, and now it never comes into my mind. That change alone is worth 10 secs a lap. Forget suspension tweaking or more horsepower... the real speed comes from within the mind.

    Interestingly, I'm also much less likely to crash now!
    +1


    I have a mate doing his first race this weekend and he won't do any lead up ride days in case he crashes. (and he needs the practice)
    Riding close quarters was my biggest hurdle when I started racing 4 years ago

    I'm doing a day at WP on Wednesday to get some last minute tweeking done on the new suspension, that will have been 4 ride days in 3 weeks leading up to this last round
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshy View Post
    I stopped worrying about crashing. Simple (and as massively complex!) as that. I was always thinking about it, every corner, and now it never comes into my mind. That change alone is worth 10 secs a lap. Forget suspension tweaking or more horsepower... the real speed comes from within the mind.

    Interestingly, I'm also much less likely to crash now!
    Well that is the biggest mental block I have currently at the moment.

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    Chubb... dont worry about times... they will happen...Just race !!! best way to not worry about crashing, even when you do
    Life's too Short- YOLO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshy View Post
    I stopped worrying about crashing. Simple (and as massively complex!) as that. I was always thinking about it, every corner, and now it never comes into my mind. That change alone is worth 10 secs a lap. Forget suspension tweaking or more horsepower... the real speed comes from within the mind.

    Interestingly, I'm also much less likely to crash now!
    I can understand that. Due to my limited experience I'm still establishing how fast I can actually go through corners. I've definitely done laps where I've taken corners much, much quicker that I normally would and got through fine - plenty of grip, bike completely stable. Really need to focus on backing myself more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Mick View Post
    Chubb... dont worry about times... they will happen...Just race !!! best way to not worry about crashing, even when you do
    yep don't worry about times or places, just get aggressive about getting in front of the bike that's in front of you and just keep doing that for every rider infront of you

    also work on qualifying at the pace you race so you can start any race with the guys who are your pace

    like marshy said racing is just as much mental as it is physical, although being physically fit will allow your brain to concentrate more on your racing
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    I'm in for this now. I just need a clearance from the specialist tomorrow and a bit of race tape for the wrist and I should be ok. I haven't been on the bike since the 4 hour, so I'll be a bit nervous..... and a bit slow, but hopefully I can still have some fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelso View Post
    I'm in for this now. I just need a clearance from the specialist tomorrow and a bit of race tape for the wrist and I should be ok. I haven't been on the bike since the 4 hour, so I'll be a bit nervous..... and a bit slow, but hopefully I can still have some fun.
    Awesome mate, great to hear!! Looking forward to seeing you on track again
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    I will be down on Sunday taking happy snaps now.

    does my ARDC pass get me in the gate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Negrogrande View Post
    I will be down on Sunday taking happy snaps now.

    does my ARDC pass get me in the gate?
    Yes
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    Case protectors on RHS are mandatory right? Going in tonight to do my checklist. I know I have one on the left but not on the right. Mother fucker.

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    Also, radiator overflow bottle. Mine is currently in stock position on the LHS. I seem to remember the general consensus being it is fine to leave it like that?

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    Case savers are mandatory for anything that can come in contact with the ground that houses oil etc behind that to my knowledge anyway..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan View Post
    Case protectors on RHS are mandatory right? Going in tonight to do my checklist. I know I have one on the left but not on the right. Mother fucker.
    If you get stuck Dan, I have one on the spare motor. Could post to you or bring with me.

    Just leave the overflow for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by senator8 View Post
    Just leave the overflow for now.
    +1. Just be sure you are only running water in the radiator(distilled/demineralised for the good of your engine, but tap is fine if you're gonna change it again afterwards).
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    Quote Originally Posted by senator8 View Post
    If you get stuck Dan, I have one on the spare motor. Could post to you or bring with me.

    Just leave the overflow for now.
    Cheers mate. Will have a suss over the course of the day and give you an answer tomorrow!

    Only have water in it anyway so all good there.

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    Mail man just came ... by ... Honda RJays paperwork and tickets have arrived.

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    I just noticed that my shark fin was missing. Marshy do you sell them / have any in stock?
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    Dan I'm probably wrong but I don't think Marshy stocks them ... but low and behold Wetty must be psychic ... because he just mentioned on nswr4ts that he has a few left in stock.

    I'm just waiting for Eastcoast wreckers to work out a price to overnight a front fairing stay, hopefully that's it for bits ... until we find the next broken thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phat3R View Post
    I'm just waiting for Eastcoast wreckers to work out a price to overnight a front fairing stay, hopefully that's it for bits ... until we find the next broken thing!
    And I spoke too soon ... a late discovery that wrong part was on right model bike ... faaaark ...

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