St George November

[Little Mick]

well we all make mistakes and we learn from it.. no one is perfect.

Hopefully Rancell. ..sometimes my stubbornness gets in the way...

[Lets Torque]

well we all make mistakes and we learn from it.. no one is perfect.

Talent out weighing ambition or is it the other way around ? Feel free to tell me where to go - but its the lack of conscience that gets me!

At the end of the days its club racing PPL, we all have families to go home to! Racing hard is one thing but remember its only tupper ware and bragging rights at the end of the day PPL...

My 2c

[Little Mick]

Then report it to the clerk of course. I think it was at T2, wasn't it? There's one flaggie down there, and almost 50 bikes going through at once after a race start. They can't see much with all that going on, and are only looking for incidents requiring a yellow flag. They can't be expected to monitor/police/judge riding behaviour. Race control can't see T2 at all (ditto anyone on the roof etc), so they aren't watching either.

Fyi, I've heard 2nd hand that Spilly has broken ribs and collarbone, and a punctured lung. He was choppered out.

Marshy

A bit late to report it when the guy is in hospital. A quiet word politely should be sufficient. It appears the response that was given in this situation that cam mentioned was not as endearing.

I don't know spilly and this is not specifically directed at him as there were others out there who took risks and may have been spoken to by the receiving party. ..We are out there racing with mates and we want all of us to come out of it in one piece and grid up next race. When someone says xxxxxxxx then at least consider it from the other party's perspective. Taking their nose off or not giving sufficient room to brake and turn safely or ramming it in and hoping for the best achieves nothing helpful. Having to winge to control about your fellow racers is not how people want to go about racing.

A little more sportsmanship rather than arrogance would do all of us the world of good.

But hey.. what do I know... i just don't like seeing my mates get hurt

Ps.. hope you recover Ok spilly.

[Marshy]

Marshy

A bit late to report it when the guy is in hospital. A quiet word politely should be sufficient. It appears the response that was given in this situation that cam mentioned was not as endearing.

I wasn't though. He had a quiet word said to him at the last St G race meet at EC about going into T2 like he's ten-pin bowling. And that was from the quietest, most softly spoken and mild-mannered gentleman racer I know. Spilly told him to 'fuck off' that time too. I was right next to them at the time of the exchange. It then happened again at Broadford (I hear; I wasn't there). So he hasn't learnt from any of these 'quiet words' and needs some authority coming down on his ass. There are a couple of other people (that shall remain nameless at this point) who I am seriously scared to share the track with.

The overwhelming majority are well-behaved, and absolutely mistakes are made in the heat of the contest all the time and by many of us, causing accidents and injury to others. This is not what we are talking about. The repeated dangerous riding by an individual should be addressed. Currently it almost never is (nobody wants to be a (dobber), and innocent people pay the price. Fuck that. It's not MotoGP. Ride to a standard, or get off the track.

[pensioner rates]

Hi guys,
What a weekend it was mostly gut churning and then gut wrenching when we called the choppers.
Yes now it's all over and we think about the incidents there are many points of view comming forward.
Let me say this that all of the marshals and flaggies do their best to enable you all to race.

There are a lot of new flaggies and they are needed to man all the corners the tower can't see, we mostly have two flaggies a point but usually 1 is not experienced and it's all new to them and the other may not know about what safe racing lines and breaking is.
We are briefed to what to do at the marshals meeting and we have our points and look foward to the next point you guys flash past and we are watching for crashes only in our sector it happens as fast to us as it does to you.
Man I'm lucky to see my mates and I look for them to see how the incident unfolded or happened is near impossible.

As Marshy said if your uncomfortable riding wit
h a guy see the clerk of the course and fair and immediate action will be taken to see safe and fair racing.I know the work the officials of St George do and they are competent looking out for you first and the good of the club.
Guys I have a little gripe to you riders .
When you see the red flag the guys going fast slow and put a signal to the guys behind and get in the exit quickly so we can get the ambo out. Too often guys would continue to the back gate ok the first few for safety get past me but ten more?.....??? And then you all slow and continue like Browns cows , ok you have seen the red flag ,well giddy up and get off the track the back markers catch up please do it safely but catch up. It may be you next time we are trying to assist.
Yes I know it's really not much wasted time but every second feels like an hour when your flaging.

Cheers guys im happy to flag and do anything to help the club meets run and that gets you riders out there and that's the thing your riders give each other room it takes time to be a racer and most will never achieve it. Ride the club races safe.it helps you, helps other riders and makes my job easier.

[Turbo]

Hi guys,
What a weekend it was mostly gut churning and then gut wrenching when we called the choppers.
Yes now it's all over and we think about the incidents there are many points of view comming forward.
Let me say this that all of the marshals and flaggies do their best to enable you all to race.

There are a lot of new flaggies and they are needed to man all the corners the tower can't see, we mostly have two flaggies a point but usually 1 is not experienced and it's all new to them and the other may not know about what safe racing lines and breaking is.
We are briefed to what to do at the marshals meeting and we have our points and look foward to the next point you guys flash past and we are watching for crashes only in our sector it happens as fast to us as it does to you.
Man I'm lucky to see my mates and I look for them to see how the incident unfolded or happened is near impossible.

As Marshy said if your uncomfortable riding wit
h a guy see the clerk of the course and fair and immediate action will be taken to see safe and fair racing.I know the work the officials of St George do and they are competent looking out for you first and the good of the club.
Guys I have a little gripe to you riders .
When you see the red flag the guys going fast slow and put a signal to the guys behind and get in the exit quickly so we can get the ambo out. Too often guys would continue to the back gate ok the first few for safety get past me but ten more?.....??? And then you all slow and continue like Browns cows , ok you have seen the red flag ,well giddy up and get off the track the back markers catch up please do it safely but catch up. It may be you next time we are trying to assist.
Yes I know it's really not much wasted time but every second feels like an hour when your flaging.

Cheers guys im happy to flag and do anything to help the club meets run and that gets you riders out there and that's the thing your riders give each other room it takes time to be a racer and most will never achieve it. Ride the club races safe.it helps you, helps other riders and makes my job easier.

Thanks to you and your colleagues work over the weekend.
Excellent work all round. Thanks for the tip on flags, will deff take onboard.

[CLIFFY]

I expect an apology for a mistake.
If one doesn't find me, I make an official complaint.
If I get punted onto the grass again on the access road I'll be going home with more teeth than I turned up with.
Enough said.

[Carl-52]

yeh i saw that one Cliffy, couldnt believe what was going on there, all just to get out first for qualifiying.

[Little Mick]

Anyone in particular?

[chubb]

I expect an apology for a mistake.
If one doesn't find me, I make an official complaint.
If I get punted onto the grass again on the access road I'll be going home with more teeth than I turned up with.
Enough said.

yeh i saw that one Cliffy, couldnt believe what was going on there, all just to get out first for qualifiying.

Anyone in particular?

I got my nose cut off plenty of times... it was a little nerve wrecking

[shippy__]

vids people vids

[Negrogrande]

Was a pretty crazy weekend, some seriously dicey passes at the back where Carl & I were playing.

Had lots of fun and finally hit a 1:45 so happy days.

Vids o come

[Saturnalian]

Was a pretty crazy weekend, some seriously dicey passes at the back where Carl & I were playing.

Had lots of fun and finally hit a 1:45 so happy days.

Vids o come

you weren't at the back

[Negrogrande]

you weren't at the back

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camera wigged out for race 2 and then I ran out of memory.

will upload the 1 race I do have later tonight

[Leezx10r]

Yes first race weekend and playing with big boys in unlimted, add all the air traffic into the mix & needless to say I say a little nervous.
my noise got cut off quite a few times, I need to go faster to cure that, but never felt in trouble, more impressed.
Got past just before t8 by that young kid on that r6! I nearly crashed watching him sideways into t8! never seen that done like that before.
But loved it, will be there for R1 & R2

[Marshy]

Yes first race weekend and playing with big boys in unlimted, add all the air traffic into the mix & needless to say I say a little nervous.
my noise got cut off quite a few times, I need to go faster to cure that, but never felt in trouble, more impressed.
Got past just before t8 by that young kid on that r6! I nearly crashed watching him sideways into t8! never seen that done like that before.
But loved it, will be there for R1 & R2

Top stuff mate!! Be warned.... it's seriously addictive! But you know that already from ARDC days. You've also mightily improved in only a few months (why the hell did I take soooo many years to get faster?!?!?) and on a big bike too, not a more forgiving 600.

What's your lap time improvement over the last few months?

[Leezx10r]

Top stuff mate!! Be warned.... it's seriously addictive! But you know that already from ARDC days. You've also mightily improved in only a few months (why the hell did I take soooo many years to get faster?!?!?) and on a big bike too, not a more forgiving 600.

What's your lap time improvement over the last few months?

Thanks Marshy. Dropped 5 seconds a lap since June, doing 45's which is ok lots of improvement still to do & the bike is planted now after new setup.

Hoping for 42's in 2015. But yep racing is very addictive, & itching to get down to ardc in December.

Oh and didn't think I would like the north track, it's great! Fast and follows great.

[Turbo]

Thanks Marshy. Dropped 5 seconds a lap since June, doing 45's which is ok lots of improvement still to do & the bike is planted now after new setup.

Hoping for 42's in 2015. But yep racing is very addictive, & itching to get down to ardc in December.

Oh and didn't think I would like the north track, it's great! Fast and follows great.

North circuit is great fun, yeah!!
That's some solid time improvement mate. You'll be in 42's before you know it!

[Saturnalian]

You're telling me.... at least with the amount of crashes on the weekend I kept moving up the grid.
I was meaning to ask you all weekend..... How's the new calipers


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[Negrogrande]

You're telling me.... at least with the amount of crashes on the weekend I kept moving up the grid.
I was meaning to ask you all weekend..... How's the new calipers


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Awesome!

speed lines have me f*cked though actually harder to bleed than using a vacuum (how I usually do it).

I'm actually kind of annoyed as I just sold the bike (pending payment)

[Saturnalian]

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I'm actually kind of annoyed as I just sold the bike (pending payment)[/QUOTE]

And then....,

I do have a spare R6 for sale at the moment


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[Marshy]

And then....,

I do have a spare R6 for sale at the moment


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Oooh, a UA!!! You know you want one, Lawson!!

[Negrogrande]

no firm plans yet, I just missed out on the deal of the century on Track Junkie Sales, so just scouting around at the moment.

getting mauled down the straight on the gixxer got real boring on the weekend (and even worse when I made the mistake of running in green on Monday)

[Nelso]

getting mauled down the straight on the gixxer got real boring on the weekend

Pffft, I can only wish my bike accelerated as good as yours. Did you not see how many 600s passed my retro 750 on the straight? I lost count of how many riders I passed through the corners in CS600, only to have them go straight back past me on the straight.

I will say though, going around the outside of people at turn 11 every lap was a bit of fun.

[chubb]

I could part with my R6.. it has been very dominant in the CS600s and some 600 races (my talent lacks there)

[Marshy]

I could part with my R6.. it has been very dominant in the CS600s and some 600 races (my talent lacks there)

Hmmmm. Going litre-green?

[chubb]

Hmmmm. Going litre-green?

possibly...

[Leezx10r]

possibly...

You will be very happy

[senator8]

Did you get the geometry sorted Nelso?

[Nelso]

Did you get the geometry sorted Nelso?

Not yet, I just rode it as it is. Al took 4mm out of the preload adjuster that he made in the forks (to fit the Nelso size springs as he puts it) and gave it a tad more rebound so the suspension is pretty close to the mark now, it just needs to be dialled in a bit more to get it right, but I wasn't going to mess around with it between races in case I made a mess of it and threw it down the road. I still need to sort the geometry and raise the rear a bit though. With the softer front end I raised the front a bit so the forks were 'only' 7mm through and it steered like an ocean liner.

I also need to do something about the lack of power, but I don't want to spend any money on it so that could be tricky. It's got a whole 106HP on Harley's dyno, but unless I'm over 10K RPM it bogs down pretty bad trying to accelerate out of corners with my fat arse on it. I think the combined rider and bike weight might be well over 350kg so I might have to put the bike on a diet. I still did 46's getting held up pretty bad in the corners so it should still be a bit of fun to play around with the middle of the pack in premodern next year.

[Little Mick]

I also need to do something about the lack of power, ...... I think the combined rider and bike weight might be well over 350kg so I might have to put the bike on a diet.

I know a way to drop that by 60kg..... I could be your sponsored rider .... just sayin.... actually.... I could mount the LC as well as Leanne's 125.... Now we is torquin...

[Marshy]

Good news!!

[chubb]

Glad he is ok!!

[senator8]

Nelso, that hp sounds low if RB's dyno reads average. I've got a special race kit from back in the day (AMA etc) in my cv carbs which transformed it and can still be found. Also the stock engine is really sensitive to gearing due to the narrow power band. I went one tooth too long and the difference in pick up between the gears was noticeable, due to each gear just going a little too low and dropping the revs from optimum.

46's nice

[Nelso]

Nelso, that hp sounds low if RB's dyno reads average. I've got a special race kit from back in the day (AMA etc) in my cv carbs which transformed it and can still be found. Also the stock engine is really sensitive to gearing due to the narrow power band. I went one tooth too long and the difference in pick up between the gears was noticeable, due to each gear just going a little too low and dropping the revs from optimum.

46's nice

I read somewhere that they were meant to have 118HP standard, so it would be a bit low if that is the case. It would be nice to have 10 or 15 more, at least I would be able to keep with the 600s at least. It seemed over geared for EC, which meant I had to drop a gear out of 2 and 6 that I should have been able to carry and it was very sluggish up the hill after 5 and from 1 to 2, even in 5th gear. I think it's got 15:45 on it now, which I thought would be ok, but it just doesn't have the power to drive that gearing. Are you still running the standard carbs? I thought you would have flat slides on yours for some reason. I take it the race kit isn't just a Factory Pro kit; do you remember where you got it from?

[senator8]

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I read somewhere that they were meant to have 118HP standard, so it would be a bit low if that is the case. It would be nice to have 10 or 15 more, at least I would be able to keep with the 600s at least. It seemed over geared for EC, which meant I had to drop a gear out of 2 and 6 that I should have been able to carry and it was very sluggish up the hill after 5 and from 1 to 2, even in 5th gear. I think it's got 15:45 on it now, which I thought would be ok, but it just doesn't have the power to drive that gearing. Are you still running the standard carbs? I thought you would have flat slides on yours for some reason. I take it the race kit isn't just a Factory Pro kit; do you remember where you got it from?

Yeah, sounds a bit under. I've found with stock engine that 15/44 is about the max gearing for optimum pick up between gears and anything taller drops it too much on the changes. Mine is the factory pro Ti kit. I sent my carbs to U.S for refurb and supply fit kit. Worked out cheaper than just kit fitment cost I could find here locally. Then the locals also wanted dyno tuning time etc etc. The carbs as returned to me, have run perfect from get go and check on the dyno confirmed it was spot on. Let me know if you want the contact details.

[Stu23]

Interesting reading this thread I am very glad everyone is ok ish ... Just for info for those i dont know of FB, I wrote a letter to the club re this meeting, will be interesting to see if anything comes of it, im hoping it does