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    Auction Inspections

    So, I've been looking at auction listings and have found something I want to go and inspect. I do not really have a great deal of mechanical knowledge or know what to inspect exactly though... Haha. The bike has a key and the engine is running. Any pointers that might have me doing something more effective than kicking the tyres and rubbing my chin contemplatively would be a big help.

    Cheers, Adam.

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    beyond don't do it ....

    Look for round wheels;
    bent/cracked frames

    Actually look at every thing ... have a price list in your head of all parts that need to be replaced

    oh and don't want it ... seen Fkd bikes go for 1k more than 2nd hand registered gumtree etc

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    And when in doubt, assume the part will need replacing.

    TBH, if you're not mechanically minded, it's a big risk. I've had hidden cracks in frames, and f&#ked engines. If it's not a disaster one, then overall it usually ends up being between a little and a lot more expensive than buying one already converted.

    But it's fun too! So go for it if you're willing to accept the risk.
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    Yeah, I saw the thread with the crack. The bike you got with the bung engine, was the engine in working order prior to the auction? I understand it's a risk regardless of how thorough you try to be but I'd just like to mitigate it by ruling out the most common problems and then maybe roll the dice if it looks ok.....

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    Adam, there was one with a crack in the engine, which was touch-and-go, but BoB saved it! The massive hidden frame crack was a total loss, and I parted out the good bits. If it runs and the forks etc look straight, then you'll probably be fine. Just have a bid limit and stick to it!! It's easy to get carried away.....
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    Dayum, total loss! Really sounds like gambling this auction business.. Alright. Inspect thoroughly. Bid limit. Cheers Marshy.

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    A one-off purchase is akin to a gamble. Doing it all the time is like investing. Some you win on and some you lose on.
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    And like investing, if you don't know what you're doing, there's also a good chance you're gonna lose a LOT of them...

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    Whats the bike and auction? .. as long as its not a cbr 600rr then go for it ... stay clear of the hondas .. ( only joking .. i love the hondas)
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    Looks fine - there'll be nothing wrong with it. It'll go for a fortune but.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshy View Post
    Looks fine - there'll be nothing wrong with it. It'll go for a fortune but.
    Great. Haha. What would you estimate?

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    even the best get bitten , good ruck and expect to end up payin more and riding it in 2016

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    $6k to $7k, including fees. People forget the fees, but they've gone up in July and are about $750 now (used to be ~$500), which is a big whack on top if you're not expecting it. Then consider:

    Painted fairings $1k
    Quickshifter $380
    Race tyres $550
    Frame sliders $100
    Clipons $100
    Grips $30
    Levers $90
    Braided lines $130
    520 chain and sprockets $350
    GB engine covers $350
    Shark fin $80
    Tank sliders $60
    Rearsets $400
    Mid-pipe and muffler $500
    Steering damper $600
    Lockwiring all over
    Suspension upgrades $$$$

    And they are just the basics! It's a labour of love, too, because all that work takes weeks full-time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshy View Post
    $6k to $7k, including fees. People forget the fees, but they've gone up in July and are about $750 now (used to be ~$500), which is a big whack on top if you're not expecting it. Then consider:

    Painted fairings $1k
    Quickshifter $380
    Race tyres $550
    Frame sliders $100
    Clipons $100
    Grips $30
    Levers $90
    Braided lines $130
    520 chain and sprockets $350
    GB engine covers $350
    Shark fin $80
    Tank sliders $60
    Rearsets $400
    Mid-pipe and muffler $500
    Steering damper $600
    Lockwiring all over
    Suspension upgrades $$$$

    And they are just the basics! It's a labour of love, too, because all that work takes weeks full-time.

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    air filter
    gearing
    brake pads
    etc etc
    and then the trip to Laurie and Dave to straighten it out and then the call sorry we cant fix the wheel or the disc or the subframe etc etc etc
    and the quik throttle
    and the rest of all the bits you need to be at the track ,
    stands
    warmers
    spare wheels
    etc etc
    and then all the spare parts
    sorry have i scared you off
    oh yeh and the trailer

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    Hahahaha. Sh#t! There must be a sub-section on this forum somewhere about organising armed robberies.... I was aware of most of the necessary peripherals but when you itemise it like that it seems a little crazy. Could be worse I guess. Could be collecting exorbitantly priced limited edition science fiction figurines. At least those might appreciate though. Any you can't crash them.... Thanks for the breakdown Marshy and WETTY.

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    and then there is tyres every day once you get fasterererer , and the $280 for the pleasure of sitting in a garage for the day when it rains , an then and then and then

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    just go buy one that is done up and save yourself the trouble...

    everyone wants a cheap bike then build it up and cost ALOT more in the long run.... and yet almost 99% of the population love to do it the hard way...

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    I'd buy chubb's, (get him to put the Mupo back in, makes such a difference) - all setup fast race bike great price - way cheaper than your build - little to no risk - & go track riding now.

    IMHO you can't ride them hard, as in on track, AND worry about binning them ... that's why you don't try and ride the wheels off the roady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubb View Post
    just go buy one that is done up and save yourself the trouble...

    everyone wants a cheap bike then build it up and cost ALOT more in the long run.... and yet almost 99% of the population love to do it the hard way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat View Post
    Hahahaha. Sh#t! There must be a sub-section on this forum somewhere about organising armed robberies....


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    Quote Originally Posted by WETTY View Post
    and then there is tyres every day once you get fasterererer , and the $280 for the pleasure of sitting in a garage for the day when it rains , an then and then and then
    True dat. Spare rims with wets fitted is the very next purchase, after the bike, for most people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat View Post
    Hahahaha. Sh#t! There must be a sub-section on this forum somewhere about organising armed robberies.... I was aware of most of the necessary peripherals but when you itemise it like that it seems a little crazy. Could be worse I guess. Could be collecting exorbitantly priced limited edition science fiction figurines. At least those might appreciate though. Any you can't crash them.... Thanks for the breakdown Marshy and WETTY.
    I find it best practice to not sum the total expenditure. Might give it up if I did.
    Once you've got a bike and associated kit sorted, it pays for itself in terms of fun and excitement!

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    Auction Inspections

    The other thing that always gets overlooked in these threads is that maybe people can't afford to drop 8/9/10k on a race bike in one hit but they can afford to spend more if the cost is amortised over a longer period of time. Like say, getting finance on a car. If you aren't in a mad rush to be at the track this weekend and you enjoy the process of putting something together why not do an auction bike? Yeah it ends up being more but if it's spaced out the hit isn't as bad.


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    Dan, i know you apply the same thinking to bike ownership. That's why you've amortised your investment over so many bikes
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    Hahaha touché


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    Quote Originally Posted by senator8 View Post
    Dan, i know you apply the same thinking to bike ownership. That's why you've amortised your investment over so many bikes
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    I actually sold a couple over the last few months. Trimming the fat. It'll be a fairly respectable stable at the end (if you're into early 70s two strokes...)


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    For some reason I seem to find myself, a lot lately, sitting in front of the computer late at night, looking at mid 80's two strokes


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    And then I remember carbie jets And needles and come to my senses and go and buy something else for my R6


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saturnalian View Post
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    Do it. Seen a few up for sale over the last few months.


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    So im not the only one looking on ebay for a rz 350 , rz500 to relive my youth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saturnalian View Post
    For some reason I seem to find myself, a lot lately, sitting in front of the computer late at night, looking at mid 80's two strokes


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    My mate is selling a RZ350 atm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoB View Post
    So im not the only one looking on ebay for a rz 350 , rz500 to relive my youth.
    Quote Originally Posted by dan View Post
    My mate is selling a RZ350 atm...
    My first bike, and my first project. Loved it. Nearly died on it. Stopped riding for 20 years because of it.
    Hell yeah, i want another one....

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    Dan, can you tell me why i can't get race bike mart to work. I've never been able to load a bike on it but i've seen you post a few up.

    http://racebikemart.com/index.php

    Here's another good one for looking at Japanese classics...

    http://motorcycle.goobike.com

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    Don't know why it doesn't work for you. Bit weird I have no problems. Same mate selling the RZ350 is also selling his recently completed matching numbers 350LC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat View Post
    So, I've been looking at auction listings and have found something I want to go and inspect. I do not really have a great deal of mechanical knowledge or know what to inspect exactly though... Haha. The bike has a key and the engine is running. Any pointers that might have me doing something more effective than kicking the tyres and rubbing my chin contemplatively would be a big help.

    Cheers, Adam.
    As others have pointed out, it is much cheaper to buy one already set up. Eg, we are selling my wife's '06 ZX6 that has already been set up well and has all the usual stuff on it and you could buy it for $4,500 and be riding it within two week at the next ride day at the start of January. You won't even need to get tyres as a fresh set went on it a couple of days ago and have only done a few sessions. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kawasaki-...item462f9d6ba8 You would be mad to go the auction way if you are not mechanically minded and why go through the whole time consuming process of building something up when you could be riding something straight away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelso View Post
    You would be mad to go the auction way if you are not mechanically minded and why go through the whole time consuming process of building something up when you could be riding something straight away?
    Yep, agree with this. My first trackie was Marshy's old R6. I knew it was already 'done' and I could focus on improving my own ability rather than whether or not the bike was working properly. Building up the new bike, I can get to know the incremental improvements and hopefully work on my ability to diagnose handling problems etc.. All the while tho, I can jump on my fully sorted bike for some hot laps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelso View Post
    As others have pointed out, it is much cheaper to buy one already set up. Eg, we are selling my wife's '06 ZX6 that has already been set up well and has all the usual stuff on it and you could buy it for $4,500 and be riding it within two week at the next ride day at the start of January. You won't even need to get tyres as a fresh set went on it a couple of days ago and have only done a few sessions. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kawasaki-...item462f9d6ba8 You would be mad to go the auction way if you are not mechanically minded and why go through the whole time consuming process of building something up when you could be riding something straight away?
    good cheap trackbike for the budding punter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelso View Post
    As others have pointed out, it is much cheaper to buy one already set up. Eg, we are selling my wife's '06 ZX6 that has already been set up well and has all the usual stuff on it and you could buy it for $4,500 and be riding it within two week at the next ride day at the start of January. You won't even need to get tyres as a fresh set went on it a couple of days ago and have only done a few sessions. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Kawasaki-...item462f9d6ba8 You would be mad to go the auction way if you are not mechanically minded and why go through the whole time consuming process of building something up when you could be riding something straight away?
    It's no longer pink either. http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/albio...636/1065808781
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelso View Post
    I can't believe this hasn't been sold yet. I wish I could afford another bike right now it would be perfect for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan View Post
    I can't believe this hasn't been sold yet. I wish I could afford another bike right now it would be perfect for me.
    Totally agree

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