St George November

[Turbo]

Fyi, I've heard 2nd hand that Spilly has broken ribs and collarbone, and a punctured lung. He was choppered out.

Yeah, he confirmed that to me via text earlier. He is in Westmeade and talking to Johnny-B's mate, the surgeon who operated on me earlier!
He's aware he was charging T2, and said personally he needs to 'Calm the fuck down'!

[chubb]

Yeah, he confirmed that to me via text earlier. He is in Westmeade and talking to Johnn-B's mate, the surgeon who operated on me earlier!
He's aware he was charging T2, and said he needs to 'Calm the fuck down'!

well we all make mistakes and we learn from it.. no one is perfect.

[Little Mick]

well we all make mistakes and we learn from it.. no one is perfect.

Hopefully Rancell. ..sometimes my stubbornness gets in the way...

[Marshy]

I'll just add that I've switched classes previously, to avoid two individuals who were my pace but a danger to themselves and others. This is not golf; it's life and limb.

[Marshy]

Also, I think it's actually much better to go and see the CoC rather than go and yell at another racer. They should hear about it from officials, and have their right of reply, without resorting to heated name-calling in the pits.

[chubb]

Also, I think it's actually much better to go and see the CoC rather than go and yell at another racer. They should hear about it from officials, and have their right of reply, without resorting to heated name-calling in the pits.

This I agree with. It is the CoC whom you should see if you have any disagreements with any riders.

[Little Mick]

I wasn't though. He had a quiet word said to him at the last St G race meet at EC about going into T2 like he's ten-pin bowling. And that was from the quietest, most softly spoken and mild-mannered gentleman racer I know. Spilly told him to 'fuck off' that time too. I was right next to them at the time of the exchange. It then happened again at Broadford (I hear; I wasn't there). So he hasn't learnt from any of these 'quiet words' and needs some authority coming down on his ass. There are a couple of other people (that shall remain nameless at this point) who I am seriously scared to share the track with.

The overwhelming majority are well-behaved, and absolutely mistakes are made in the heat of the contest all the time and by many of us, causing accidents and injury to others. This is not what we are talking about. The repeated dangerous riding by an individual should be addressed. Currently it almost never is (nobody wants to be a (dobber), and innocent people pay the price. Fuck that. It's not MotoGP. Ride to a standard, or get off the track.

Also, I think it's actually much better to go and see the CoC rather than go and yell at another racer. They should hear about it from officials, and have their right of reply, without resorting to heated name-calling in the pits.

I know the gentleman you refer to Marshy, and you are absolutely spot on about him being the most gentlemanly person out there. I was told about the discussion you mentioned, but hearing it second hand (even if from the gentleman himself) I didn't think it appropriate for me to refer to it.

I guess the issue is when someone chooses to "ignore" the feedback, then how does the next person know that it was ignored and go straight to CoC? Instead we all go straight to CoC every time we don't like the way someone rides or got a bit close... most of the times I have raised it with somebody or someone has come to apologise for something they did (I'm too soft to do it to others....), we laugh it off and get to know each other a bit more and have more fun...

I don't disagree with talking to CoC, but it would be nice to deal with it more amicably...

actual scenario - names withheld for obvious reasons but those involved will know who they are and I'm happy to be called on it if I described it incorrectly.

One rider in our garage had a word to another rider who dropped in to our garage late in the day about chopping his nose off during a race. The recipient of the word did not realise that he had chopped the other riders nose and was taken a little aback when he heard it.... now that person is aware of it I'm sure they will give all riders a bit more braking zone etc. If not, then there may be a CoC involved if it happens again based on the above.

I'm sure the person involved appreciated being made aware of the situation (albeit to their surprise), to consider the situation next time. If the person had gone straight to CoC and not given the feedback, then I'm sure they would have been less receptive to the feedback.. (Yelling the feedback probably wont work either)

We are friends out there (for the most part :o) and should be able to deal with it. Again, its not Moto GP and not worth risking life and limb on it...

[Metal-Man]

I know the gentleman you refer to Marshy, and you are absolutely spot on about him being the most gentlemanly person out there. I was told about the discussion you mentioned, but hearing it second hand (even if from the gentleman himself) I didn't think it appropriate for me to refer to it.

I guess the issue is when someone chooses to "ignore" the feedback, then how does the next person know that it was ignored and go straight to CoC? Instead we all go straight to CoC every time we don't like the way someone rides or got a bit close... most of the times I have raised it with somebody or someone has come to apologise for something they did (I'm too soft to do it to others....), we laugh it off and get to know each other a bit more and have more fun...

I don't disagree with talking to CoC, but it would be nice to deal with it more amicably...

actual scenario - names withheld for obvious reasons but those involved will know who they are and I'm happy to be called on it if I described it incorrectly.

One rider in our garage had a word to another rider who dropped in to our garage late in the day about chopping his nose off during a race. The recipient of the word did not realise that he had chopped the other riders nose and was taken a little aback when he heard it.... now that person is aware of it I'm sure they will give all riders a bit more braking zone etc. If not, then there may be a CoC involved if it happens again based on the above.

I'm sure the person involved appreciated being made aware of the situation (albeit to their surprise), to consider the situation next time. If the person had gone straight to CoC and not given the feedback, then I'm sure they would have been less receptive to the feedback.. (Yelling the feedback probably wont work either)

We are friends out there (for the most part :o) and should be able to deal with it. Again, its not Moto GP and not worth risking life and limb on it...

hi guys,

I haven't been on here since my last post & I just got up to speed on everyone's input here...

Again, I just want to clarify a few things"

1: I meant no disrespect to Spilly what so ever, it's just the response I received made me think, what an arrogant pig headed selfish egotistical guy. (and when ur in the heat of the moment you reply accordingly)
Which I merely only wanted him to realize the possible outcomes of his manouver's could bring. Nothing more.

2: As with previous comments here about Spilly being approached at Broady ... I had nothing of it there, as it didn't affect me directly, but I did see he was off the track in "Every Race".

3: I will be the first one to put my hand up and agree or reason with another rider, in a civil manner, if I am approached about an incident that I may or may not have caused.
And to prove it, it actually happened to me at Broady, during the 600cc race. I was chasing Mick #117 for most of the race, an (what I thought was an over-taking opportunity) so I tried to outbrake him, and when I was about to tip it in, the front seemed to washout a bit, causing me, and Mick to go off the track, at crash corner, resulting in losing my P3, and Mick his P2. I think I ended up finishing 6th or something.

Immediately after the race, I approached Mick and sincerely apologized to him, and he said "oh was that you?" ... We had a civil convo about it, an went on my merry way, with both of us learning something from it.

Realising I won't be doin that same manouver again.

3: As for the CoC ... I did approach CoC, but he said he will announce my name over PA when he has a chance to see the vid of the "crash".

I am not the type of person that will be ignorant to someone wanting to talk to me ... if there is an issue you feel that needs raising, please, come and talk to me, because with civil dialogue, you get results.


4: And no, this is not what I wanted to do (as mentioned in 1 but when you get abused for trying to raise some important concerns for all involved, before an incident occurs, one should listen, soak up that info and think logically ... after all ...


"WE ARE ALL MATES IN AN ENVIRONMENT WE ALL LOVE & SHOULD RESPECT ONE ANOTHER, ON & OFF THE TRACK"


thanks

[Lets Torque]

well we all make mistakes and we learn from it.. no one is perfect.

Talent out weighing ambition or is it the other way around ? Feel free to tell me where to go - but its the lack of conscience that gets me!

At the end of the days its club racing PPL, we all have families to go home to! Racing hard is one thing but remember its only tupper ware and bragging rights at the end of the day PPL...

My 2c

[chubb]

Talent out weighing ambition or is it the other way around ? Feel free to tell me where to go - but its the lack of conscience that gets me!

At the end of the days its club racing PPL, we all have families to go home to! Racing hard is one thing but remember its only tupper ware and bragging rights at the end of the day PPL...

My 2c

Was that aimed at me?

[Phat3R]

Talent out weighing ambition or is it the other way around?

Was that aimed at me?

Doubt it - you've got equal doses

[Marshy]

Was that aimed at me?

Don't think so! You're not a crazy rider.