Kris I know what you mean but that was nowhere near the slowest red group I have been in and I reckon the speed difference considering it was full wasn't as bad as normal, bizarrely the most dangerous day I have EVER had in years of riding was an ARDC day back in Sept where there was a couple of guys on 80's or something equally as slow. Coming out of turn 12 they were around the 200m marker and I was still hitting them mid corner, 3 times I almost hit them as the speed differential was ridiculous. It wasn't their fault but clearly highlighted an issue with the ARDC format.
I agree that in the last year or two as track days have become more popular people are entering red group because the intermediate ones are full, its dangerous and getting worse but can't see what they can do really. In the UK one of the track day companies put transponders on the bikes for the 1st session and then moved anyone who was clearly in the wrong group. MEGA would never do something like that but the Stay Upright guys seem open to ideas and have even come into the garages asking for feedback which I think is a refreshing change. Rather than being made to feel like they are doing us a favour by letting us attend, we are finally be treated like paying customers and getting treated like adults!

With regards to a lunch break if it makes the marshals more attentive and happy then I'm all for it!!!

PS TT garage for the 2nd November.......